Live Play Data

Lorthos, the Tidemaker

· Legendary Creature — Octopus · Commander Masters (CMM)

Live Inclusion

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Times Brought

229

Decks Running

106

Median Cast Turn

8.5

Drawn → Played

52%

Format

Multiplayer 1v1

First-cast turn

n=28

57%

T6-9

32%

T10+

Median 8.5 P25 6 · P75 11 · max 14

On curve 50% (2 / 28 cast on T8) Cast same turn as drawn 59%

The "good card" funnel

229 brought · 101 players

Brought to game

229

Ever drawn

Reached battlefield

Still on board at game end

Once cast, 61% of this card is still on the battlefield at game end. This reflects how often it survives removal, not just whether it's a permanent.

≥ -11.0pp

Players who cast this card win 27% of the time (n=28) , vs 20% when it never left the library (n=156).

When players drew this card but left it in hand, they won 13% (n=21).

Read this as correlation, not as the card's contribution. Casting a card means you lived long enough to cast it, so this gap widens with mana value across every card we track.

Observed gap +6.6pp; 95% confidence interval -11.0pp to +24.1pp. Correlational, not causal: powerful payoffs also get cast more often in games you are already winning.

Final zone distribution

56 instances

3.6%

Library

30.4%

Battlefield

25.0%

Graveyard

1.8%

Exile

Commanders that played this card

in tracked games

1 Kiora, Sovereign of the Deep 23 decks
2 Kenessos, Priest of Thassa 15 decks
3 Marvo, Deep Operative 15 decks
4 Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle 14 decks
5 Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait 5 decks
6 The Watcher in the Water 4 decks
7 Runo Stromkirk // Krothuss, Lord of the Deep 3 decks
8 Teferi, Temporal Archmage 3 decks
9 Braids, Conjurer Adept 2 decks
10 Doctor Octopus, Master Planner 2 decks

Card text

Lorthos, the Tidemaker

Legendary Creature — Octopus

Whenever Lorthos attacks, you may pay {8}

. If you do, tap up to eight target permanents. Those permanents don't untap during their controllers' next untap steps.

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Commander Masters (CMM) · Rare · Illustrated by Kekai Kotaki

Frequently Asked

Why isn't there more data on this card?

Playgroup Live collects per-card gameplay data from real Commander games. Play counts appear once a card reaches 100 tracked games, and the full charts need a sample of at least 25 observed games that is not dominated by a single pilot. Until this card clears those bars you're seeing only the basic counts. Stats refresh nightly.

How is Playgroup Live card data collected?

Players using Playgroup Live import their decklists before a game and log card actions as they play. Each cast, zone change, and resolution is recorded as a real game event. Stats on this site are computed from those events, not from decklist scrapes or theorycrafting. Playgroup has recorded 780,000+ Commander games overall, and this card-level play data comes from the Playgroup Live seats playing virtual cards, a subset of that corpus.