Live Play Data

Lorthos, the Tidemaker

· Legendary Creature — Octopus · Commander Masters (CMM)

Live Inclusion

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Times Brought

191

Decks Running

Median Cast Turn

Drawn → Played

53%

Format

Multiplayer 1v1

First-cast turn

n=25

56%

T6-9

36%

T10+

Median 8 P25 6 · P75 11 · max 14

On curve 56% (2 / 25 cast on T8)

The "good card" funnel

191 brought · 82 players

Brought to game

191

Ever drawn

Reached battlefield

Still on board at game end

Once cast, 56% of this card is still on the battlefield at game end. This reflects how often it survives removal, not just whether it's a permanent.

≥ -7.7pp

Players who cast this card win 31% of the time (n=24) , vs 19% when it never left the library (n=124).

When players drew this card but left it in hand, they won 7% (n=15).

Read this as correlation, not as the card's contribution. Casting a card means you lived long enough to cast it, so this gap widens with mana value across every card we track.

Observed gap +12.1pp; 95% confidence interval -7.7pp to +31.9pp. Correlational, not causal: powerful payoffs also get cast more often in games you are already winning.

Final zone distribution

49 instances

2.0%

Library

28.6%

Battlefield

28.6%

Graveyard

2.0%

Exile

Commanders that played this card

in tracked games

1 Kiora, Sovereign of the Deep 16 decks
2 Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle 12 decks
3 Kenessos, Priest of Thassa 12 decks
4 Marvo, Deep Operative 12 decks
5 Aesi, Tyrant of Gyre Strait 5 decks
6 The Watcher in the Water 4 decks
7 Teferi, Temporal Archmage 3 decks
8 Doctor Octopus, Master Planner 2 decks
9 Thassa, God of the Sea 2 decks
10 Adrix and Nev, Twincasters 1 decks

Card text

Lorthos, the Tidemaker

Legendary Creature — Octopus

Whenever Lorthos attacks, you may pay {8}

. If you do, tap up to eight target permanents. Those permanents don't untap during their controllers' next untap steps.

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Commander Masters (CMM) · Rare · Illustrated by Kekai Kotaki

Frequently Asked

Why isn't there more data on this card?

Playgroup Live collects per-card gameplay data from real Commander games. Play counts appear once a card reaches 100 tracked games, and the full charts need a sample of at least 25 observed games that is not dominated by a single pilot. Until this card clears those bars you're seeing only the basic counts. Stats refresh nightly.

How is Playgroup Live card data collected?

Players using Playgroup Live import their decklists before a game and log card actions as they play. Each cast, zone change, and resolution is recorded as a real game event. Stats on this site are computed from those events, not from decklist scrapes or theorycrafting. Playgroup has recorded 750,000+ Commander games overall, and this card-level play data comes from the Playgroup Live seats playing virtual cards, a subset of that corpus.